I've been reading the writings of Andrew Tobias (his books and his online columns; I highly recommend The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need) for years. A Democrat, he tries to find common ground with his critics in order to engage them in conversation.
That's all well and good, but one consequence is that he doesn't always challenge the false premises of his commenters.
Case in point, in yesterday's column he quoted the following:
Skip Sherrod: “You write, ‘He [Munger] is one Republican who favors keeping Social Security just as it is.’ How anyone could favor keeping Social Security ‘just as it is’ is beyond me. The idea was actuarially unsound from the get go and in its present form will be financially unsustainable for future generations. Those I.O.U.s in the Social Security Trust Fund may be counted as assets, but we can’t pay benefits with them. Lord knows there have been enough impending Social Security crisis warnings issued to choke a goat.”
And Tobias responded:
Well, when a super-no-nonsense self-made Republican billionaire takes this view, I’d suggest you not dismiss it out of hand.
The Clinton budget “surpluses” George W. Bush told us were “our money” that we should demand back as tax cuts (mainly for the best off among us) were in large measure not surpluses at all, but cash to be set aside for the Trust Fund. Not as in securities as Merrill Lynch, but as a strong national balance sheet, with low National Debt, that would allow the debt to rise as needed, somewhat, to meet these obligations. Hence President Clinton’s parting theme, as he handed the surplus to his successor: “Save Social Security First.” Meaning: before you spend the surplus on other things, like wars of choice, or squander it on tax cuts for folks who are getting by just fine already. Instead, the Republicans did squander it. Hugely imprudent, huge problem, and I hate that enough Democrats went along to allow it – but tax cuts, once proposed by the chief executive, are very hard to vote against.
All that said, my guess is that Charlie Munger’s off-the-cuff “just as is” wouldn’t preclude a little tinkering around the edges other type I’ve written about in the past. That’s all it would take to get the benefits in line with the demographics. (1) I’d keep 62 as the age for early retirement. But, where currently the full-benefits retirement age rises one month per year to 67 in 2027, I would let it keep rising to 69 in 2051. (Hey: “Seventy is the new fifty-five.”) (2) Where the 6.2% tax rate you and your employer each pay drops to zero on wages above a certain cap, I’d have it drop to 1% instead. Annoying, but not a killer. (And worth paying so that grandma – much as we love her – doesn’t have to move in.) (3) I’d keep raising benefits with inflation. But for higher-income recipients, I’d calculate those benefits based on price inflation, not wage inflation, in years when prices rose slower than wages. Bang: you’re done. A bit of pain around the edges, with plenty of time to prepare for it, and the Social Security problem is solved.
Over the years I've often sent short email comments to Tobias, and he usually responds with a quick thank you note. However, this time I sent him the following:
Andy,
I was very disappointed to read in your latest column that you are jumping on the bandwagon to cut Social Security benefits by raising the full-benefits age. You glibly say that "Seventy is the new fifty-five", and it may well be -- for those who've spent their lives doing cushy office work (like me - I'm 61, retired, and I don't feel a day over 40). It doesn't take a lot of brawn to keep pushing a mouse around or type on a computer's keyboard.
But what about all the people who are employed in manual labor-type jobs? The nytimes recently published an article on just this issue.
There's also the problem with all the people in their late 50's, say, who lost their jobs due to the current economic crisis. Many of these folks may never again be able to find a job.
Especially because of our current economic woes, I think we should be lowering the retirement age, not raising it.
Rather than trying to reason with people who, like your correspondent Skip today, claim that Social Security "was actuarially unsound from the get go and in its present form will be financially unsustainable for future generations", I wish you would point out that Social Security is, in fact, very sound. Without making any changes, it will be able to pay out full benefits until at least 2037, and after that it only requires minor tweaks to keep it going (such as the suggestion that you've adopted of dropping the rate to 1% rather than zero above a certain wage level).
--JT
Somewhat to my surprise he replied a few hours later with a thoughtful note:
Thanks.
As the proposed changes on age wouldn't begin to kick in until 2028, no one currently currently 49 or older would be affected by them.
But to ask a 48-y-o to save enough to allow for one more month before his or her full Social Sec benefit kicks in (and someone currenty 24 to plan to have to wait to 69 instead of 67) seems to me the kind of sacrifice we may have to endure in the present circumstance.
With luck, our economic fortunes will so improve we'll someday be able to reverse this.
Best,
Andy
To which I replied with:
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Just a couple points. You didn't address the problem of laborers who really can't keep working until they reach the current full retirement age, let alone a higher one in the future. And I'd be a lot more willing to ask the 98% to make a reasonable-sounding sacrifice if once - just once - we saw the 2% at the top do a little sacrificing.
Thanks again.
And he came back with:
It's an important point, and one reason I would not raise the early retirement age. In the past, I've called for a lower age for physical laborers . . . it's just that it's hard to see how that gets administered fairly and without causing great rancor -- gradations of physical labor, and gradations of what other work they could do, and how long they did it -- and all that.
Ps -- I am so with you on the 2%. But having that extra 1% is not entirely trivial -- you may already be paying close to 50 cents on the dollar in some states, so this is actually 2% of what you had left.
I sent him one more note to ask his permission to publish our exchange, which he graciously granted, only asking that I include his original post.
So here it is. And no, I've never actually had dinner with Andrew Tobias. It just sounded like a better title than "My Email Exchange with Andrew".










